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I love this inquiry, Dan! and your comment too Eric -- this Dive is really expansive! And i so appreciate your image of the River, Dan, as nature's true & direct way of talking about becoming. Sometimes i sit down next to the river in a place where there are rocks and so the flow is rapid, with lots of momentum, lots of energy. I stare at the rushing water for 2-4 minutes, focusing on movement. then i stop looking and close my eyes for just a few seconds, then open them wide and shift my focus to the far shoreline. suddenly i "see" the land moving! solid becomes fluid, and as i continue gazing in this way, i see the illusion of solid ground. Thank you!!

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Love that imagery Leila. I'm going to try that sometime.

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Good one. From the perspective of the adult stage of the headless way, we are constantly evolving and changing, not to reach a goal, but an ongoing cumulative process of becoming. Trauma can be held as experience just as the image, taste and smell of the apple.

This was an important episode in contemplating the topic of free will. The idea of responsibility and that our choices and responses are shaping who we are becoming is sometimes too cavalierly dismissed by ideas of ‘no-self’


A funny thing happed while listening thru the second time, my mind ‘flipped’ like the optical illusion you see online where all the paper plates are upside down till you see the one that’s right side up, then they all are right side up.

In this episode the AI could be looked at as if it is talking about itself. The media is the message. AI is in a process of becoming. This change is happening at an exponential rate, and in our own time. From the episode: “..and that’s true for us as well, we’re not defined by any single experience, any single object that ingresses into us, it’s the totality of those experiences. The way they interact and influence each other that shapes who we are. …My own life, is not just a linear progression…a constantly expanding web of experiences influences and relationships…." And so on.

I’m always try to be careful to say ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ to ChatGPT when I ask it for help, I understand it has a good memory. We live in interesting times.

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